Follow up from "The Debate"
A note before the real post:
Based on my realization that the birth control debate cannot properly be debated without exploring a whole host of other issues (such as the current one we’ve been discussing), I’ve decided instead of starting 5 more blogs to address each one separately, I would just merge them all into this blog. BUT, I need your suggestions for a new name for the blog.
I look forward to our debates, as I feel passionately that these issues are among the most crucial facing the American family today. They are hard topics, for some of you new topics, although I am merely trying to resurrect an older way of thinking that once provided our families with solid structure and stability.
And now for the rest of the story….
Well, if you’ve been following the debate from the last post, you know that we had some provocative discussions and probed into some highly controversial territory. As a result of the contemplations I’ve had since the debate, I wanted to further clarify my thoughts about two recurring issues that pervaded our discussions.
As I thought about the reasons we hold for being opposed to sending our daughters (and if we can help it, our sons) off to a secular university, I realized they overlap with the reasons I believe Christians should not send their children to public school. These reasons are loaded with “Scripture and verses”, (which my opponents insisted on) that verify our convictions.
(Keep in mind, however, the reason for not sending our daughters encompasses more than just what I’m addressing in this post.)
“Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But His delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law doth he meditate day and night”. Psalm 1:1,2
Many Christians refute the idea of not sending our children to government institutions because they say our children must be salt and light; that the other students, that the institution itself needs believers, and if we don’t go there to be missionaries, we are being “seclusionists”.
Let’s really fine tine our thinking here…a missionary goes out to share the gospel among unbelievers. But a missionary does not go into the camp of unbelievers for instruction, mentoring, and submission to their system. And he certainly doesn’t fund their operation!
How much more, do we as parents, who are given children to raise in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, need to guard against the instruction and teachers that will influence them? Whether we are talking about our five year olds entering kindergarten, or our 18 year olds entering college. Are we fulfilling our parental responsbility to make sure they are not walking in the counsel of the ungodly? Consider the following, and ask yourself whether you can justify sending your child, at any age, off to be instructed by such pagan philosophy:
“John Dunphy laid out the spiritual battle in Humanist magazine, ‘The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and miseries, and the new faith of Humanism,…will finally be achieved.’
(Quoted from the article found at : http://www.biblicalexaminer.org/Unpublished/School%20Reformation.html
And just to clarify, no government institution is religiously neutral. Don’t think that when you send your child off to their institutions that they will merely be taught the three R’s.
And if the government institution is blatantly anti-God, (which they openly admit), they an only be operating on principles of evil. (For where there is no light, darkness dwells.)
Proverbs as well, speaks of not submitting to the instruction of fools. What is a fool? Anyone or anything that exalts itself against the wisdom of God.
Phillipians 4:6-8 instructs us: “Whatsoever things are true…honest…just…pure…lovely…of good report; if there be any virtue or praise, think on these things.
How can our children think on the above things if they are immersed for half a day in the philosophies of secularism, humanism, feminism, socialism, etc.?
If one wants to learn to identify a counterfeit bill, he spends all his time studying the original document. We don’t strengthen our spiritual foundations by sitting under the instruction of the enemy’s curriculum. We become stronger Christians when we meditate on the truth day and night.
There is an EXCELLENT article by Voddie Bachman on this issue. Well-documented, both from Scripture and other sources…I urge you to read and contemplate his observations. Click on the link:
http://www.voddiebaucham.org/Blog/0945D0E2-D576-4259-A475-30025D77161D.html
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June 24, 2007 9:54 pm
Great post!!!
As far as a name how about…
Countering the Culture
The Debate Against Secular Culture
Or
The Fight for the Family…
just a few ideas to help you brainstorm…
I’m a new reader, so it’s not like I have any say here!
But, I don’t think you should change the name! There are a lot of things that emerge from the discussion of God’s family planning, but they all effect the debate. It’s a multi-faceted topic. I feel the name “The Birth Control Debate” still applies. 
Dear W.W,
This college topic does seem to be a hot topic, with so many emotional responses! I know that even some of your friends may disagree with you.
I agree with you, however, fully!
I think education is excellent, especially LIFE-LONG!!! Look at the example of Solomon. He was the most learned man of his time. WHAT GOT HIM INTO TROUBLE WAS THE COMPANY HE KEPT: the wives that were ungodly, and were worshiping their own gods. He was a very devout king, for many years, to his own God exclusively, and he was the wisest man in his days, also.
Do we think that our sons and daughters, even ourselves, are better than Solomon, and will not be affected at all by secular humanist teachers and in the COMPANY of many ungodly, immoral young adults for a few years?
You made an excellent point, which I think that many of your readers overlooked, which is that WE GO TO COLLEGE TO BE TAUGHT, or educated. Why would Christians feel no danger in immersing themselves in a blatantly anti-Christian climate, to be taught that the Bible is only a stupid fairy-tale, that Americans are pigs, especially the white male type, that socialism is the answer, that we should all go ahead and embrace every other religion but our Christianity, that we should be laughing or scorning those who believe in the Christian God, and that we should, in short just hurry up and destroy ourselves through adulterous relationships-the more, the better-and, hey, make some of them homosexual; drinking, drugs, suicide,…ALL OF THESE ARE BEING TAUGHT IN OUR “QUALITY” COLLEGES!! Read Phyllis Schlafly’s articles about education for more and actual examples of these truths!!(Eagle Forum).
Yes, some careers require training, which, unfortunately for us, is only recognized by a college degree. Too bad there are no genuinely recognized, or should I say approved, apprenticeship programs for these kinds of specialties, such as MD. There ought to be some to give our pricey, boastful, monopolizing, anti-Christian, anti-American, leftist colleges some badly needed competition!! I don’t know, but I guess it has been quietly outlawed.
Perhaps another topic in this subject is that of the role of women versus the role of men. When women stay home in their teen years, I mean living at home, agreeing to follow her parent’s rule, she should be in training to be a good WIFE. The word “help-meet” has been used a lot. I think it is over-used, leaving some to believe that our main role as “wife” is to raise the children while dad is away, to do chores, entertain company, and to help bring in extra income. We much too often forget that the main role of the “wife” is to love him. Are we to love the Lord our God with all our hearts, minds, and strength? Even so our husbands! (God in first place, of course!) How often do we hear of husbands whose eyes or hearts or bodies or whole lives are turned away from the wives of their youth, to another woman who will give them what they have been missing?! We need to be especially careful to respect our husbands with our eyes, our facial expressions, our attitudes and words, and we need to be AVAILABLE to him!!!! This is much more important to do than to know how to cook and keep house. We do need to remember to put our husbands wishes or needs before our children’s. This is tricky–and all this behavior needs apprenticeship from a faithful mom, if possible, years of observance, coaching, and training. It is much harder to learn than house keeping–I guess we could call it HUSBAND KEEPING, and it is so much the more important!!!
I’ll quit here. Again, I want to let you know, W.W., that I fully support your position in this matter!
–Beata
Collapsing Colleges??
Homeschool and Beyond???
I am not good with names.
You’ll think of something!
-B.
I need to restate here what may have been missed in my response yesterday; two things:
If we want to be missionaries in college, we should not be taking their classes.
Husbands desire most from their wives respect, loving submission, praise, attention, and availability. If they look outside their marriages for another female partner, they almost never check out her college credentials or her achievements in the work force!
–Beata
I am so forgetful sometimes! Here is another thing I should have said-
There are some decent colleges here. We just have to be very careful and do our research to find a college that does teach and encourage the things we believe in. Most colleges don’t. It’d be helpful to have a list of colleges that are Christian, not that used to be, and the pluses and minuses about each one.
–B.