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	<title>Comments on: Homeschooling Myth Busters&#8211;Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Word Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2007/07/homeschooling-myth-busters-part-1.html/comment-page-1#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>Word Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toni,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have heard from public school educators about their &quot;proof&quot; that homeschooling doesn&#039;t work based on the &quot;failure&quot; they see.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As you pointed out, many times they are not witnessing failure at all, just something different than an institutionalized student, who we&#039;ve come to assume is the only standard of norm.  (I totally agree on the &quot;teaching to the test&quot;).  I taught school for a few years.  It didn&#039;t really matter if the kids learned anything, as long as we kept those test scores up!  What a deception to the public.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Because they have seen two or three children who may not have done so well, they lump the whole hs community together and toss it all out.  That&#039;s like looking at the statistics of people who died in a car accident because they were wearing a seatbelt, and then assume to wear a seat belt is not safe.  It&#039;s just absurd.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One will find &quot;failure&quot; in anything...because a failure can be found, does not mean by any stretch that a thing is therefore destined to failure.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Look at the public school institution... do you know how many failures come out of it?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was asked over and over by the administration to &quot;pass&quot; seniors who could not even read on a third grade level, who had failing grades.  And I had many students in that same boat.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What those educators need to see are the thousands of incredibly successful homeschoolers...intelligent, well-adjusted, highly communicable, diverse, mature, and prepared for &quot;the real world&quot;!.  They are everywhere--I know them!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Didn&#039;t mean to go on so long...more on this topic in a post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toni,</p>
<p>I have heard from public school educators about their &#8220;proof&#8221; that homeschooling doesn&#8217;t work based on the &#8220;failure&#8221; they see.</p>
<p>As you pointed out, many times they are not witnessing failure at all, just something different than an institutionalized student, who we&#8217;ve come to assume is the only standard of norm.  (I totally agree on the &#8220;teaching to the test&#8221;).  I taught school for a few years.  It didn&#8217;t really matter if the kids learned anything, as long as we kept those test scores up!  What a deception to the public.</p>
<p>Because they have seen two or three children who may not have done so well, they lump the whole hs community together and toss it all out.  That&#8217;s like looking at the statistics of people who died in a car accident because they were wearing a seatbelt, and then assume to wear a seat belt is not safe.  It&#8217;s just absurd.</p>
<p>One will find &#8220;failure&#8221; in anything&#8230;because a failure can be found, does not mean by any stretch that a thing is therefore destined to failure.  </p>
<p>Look at the public school institution&#8230; do you know how many failures come out of it?</p>
<p>I was asked over and over by the administration to &#8220;pass&#8221; seniors who could not even read on a third grade level, who had failing grades.  And I had many students in that same boat.  </p>
<p>What those educators need to see are the thousands of incredibly successful homeschoolers&#8230;intelligent, well-adjusted, highly communicable, diverse, mature, and prepared for &#8220;the real world&#8221;!.  They are everywhere&#8211;I know them!</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t mean to go on so long&#8230;more on this topic in a post!</p>
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		<title>By: Toni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a homeschooling mother of four.  One of the criticisms I&#039;ve heard from traditional educator friends goes something like this;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;You only see your children in your home.  We see all the failed attempts at homeschooling when those children reenter traditional education settings.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And how do I respond? Well, being an educator myself, I do what comes naturally.  I educate them. ;)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I first ask them what it is about the formerly homeschooled children they encounter that convicts them of a failed homeschool experience.  It&#039;s usually the same &quot;stuff&quot;;&lt;br/&gt;-they &quot;aren&#039;t even up to state standards&quot; (ie. not on &quot;grade level&quot;)&lt;br/&gt;-they don&#039;t know how to &quot;function&quot; in a school setting (ie. they don&#039;t know how to be the next duck in a row.)&lt;br/&gt;-they&#039;re back in school so clearly mom discovered she should leave the teaching to &quot;real teachers&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I then ask, &quot;Is it possible that there are other reasons beside a failed hs experience that would require a parent to return their child to traditional education?&quot;  Finances.  Illness.  A homeschool plan that always intended to be limited (ie. only homeschooling through 3rd grade).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also point out that &quot;grade level&quot; is not necessary in homeschool.  Rather, we have the benefit and opportunity to meet our student right where they&#039;re at, challenging them and encouraging them based on their individual needs and not some forced &quot;state standard.&quot;  And frankly, &quot;gifted&quot; and &quot;remedial&quot; programs speak volumes to the fact that one size does not fit all children anyway.  So, I ask if it&#039;s possible that what they perceive as &quot;failure&quot; (due to not being on grade level) could instead be evidence education based on the child and not on state standards (don&#039;t get me started here about teaching to those tests and how rigid THAT is or why it&#039;s so crucial for districts to succeed on them.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for &quot;functioning&quot; in a school setting, I remind them there&#039;s no reason for Jane (former homeschooler) to have learned how to line up for lunch or raise her hand to answer questions, etc.  And I trust Jane will be on board with that in no time at all, since it IS necessary for order in an institutionalized setting.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So basically (and I apologize for the novel here), I do try to get traditional educator friends to consider that they are not always (or even usually) seeing failed homeschool experiences.  I also encourage them that they will best be able to help these former homeschool students to transition into their classroom if they can in fact grasp and embrace what I&#039;m saying.  &lt;br/&gt;Blessings,&lt;br/&gt;~toni~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a homeschooling mother of four.  One of the criticisms I&#8217;ve heard from traditional educator friends goes something like this;</p>
<p>&#8220;You only see your children in your home.  We see all the failed attempts at homeschooling when those children reenter traditional education settings.&#8221;</p>
<p>And how do I respond? Well, being an educator myself, I do what comes naturally.  I educate them. <img src='http://www.generationcedar.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I first ask them what it is about the formerly homeschooled children they encounter that convicts them of a failed homeschool experience.  It&#8217;s usually the same &#8220;stuff&#8221;;<br />-they &#8220;aren&#8217;t even up to state standards&#8221; (ie. not on &#8220;grade level&#8221;)<br />-they don&#8217;t know how to &#8220;function&#8221; in a school setting (ie. they don&#8217;t know how to be the next duck in a row.)<br />-they&#8217;re back in school so clearly mom discovered she should leave the teaching to &#8220;real teachers&#8221;.</p>
<p>I then ask, &#8220;Is it possible that there are other reasons beside a failed hs experience that would require a parent to return their child to traditional education?&#8221;  Finances.  Illness.  A homeschool plan that always intended to be limited (ie. only homeschooling through 3rd grade).  </p>
<p>I also point out that &#8220;grade level&#8221; is not necessary in homeschool.  Rather, we have the benefit and opportunity to meet our student right where they&#8217;re at, challenging them and encouraging them based on their individual needs and not some forced &#8220;state standard.&#8221;  And frankly, &#8220;gifted&#8221; and &#8220;remedial&#8221; programs speak volumes to the fact that one size does not fit all children anyway.  So, I ask if it&#8217;s possible that what they perceive as &#8220;failure&#8221; (due to not being on grade level) could instead be evidence education based on the child and not on state standards (don&#8217;t get me started here about teaching to those tests and how rigid THAT is or why it&#8217;s so crucial for districts to succeed on them.)</p>
<p>As for &#8220;functioning&#8221; in a school setting, I remind them there&#8217;s no reason for Jane (former homeschooler) to have learned how to line up for lunch or raise her hand to answer questions, etc.  And I trust Jane will be on board with that in no time at all, since it IS necessary for order in an institutionalized setting.</p>
<p>So basically (and I apologize for the novel here), I do try to get traditional educator friends to consider that they are not always (or even usually) seeing failed homeschool experiences.  I also encourage them that they will best be able to help these former homeschool students to transition into their classroom if they can in fact grasp and embrace what I&#8217;m saying.  <br />Blessings,<br />~toni~</p>
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		<title>By: Laura @ Laura Williams' Musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura @ Laura Williams' Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I hit enter before I had posted what I wanted to.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am a homeschool Mom of 7 too. Our oldest daughter graduated in 2006.  We homeschooled her from 1999 forward.  I wish I had started schooling her at home from the get go but alas, we did not until she was in the 4th grade. We didn&#039;t even know about homeschooling before then.  It was some dear friends that encouraged us to homeschool and I am so thankful to them for showing us the way and to God for bringing them into our lives to show us that way.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We currently have a 3rd grader, a 2nd grader, a Kindergartner, a Pre-K 3 yo, a Pre-K almost 2 year old, and a Pre-K 9 month old.   Learning doesn&#039;t just start at a certain age and stop at another... it is a life long process.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I have bookmarked your blog to come back and read more as you post more on homeschooling.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;God Bless You!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In HIS Hands,&lt;br/&gt;Laura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I hit enter before I had posted what I wanted to.</p>
<p>I am a homeschool Mom of 7 too. Our oldest daughter graduated in 2006.  We homeschooled her from 1999 forward.  I wish I had started schooling her at home from the get go but alas, we did not until she was in the 4th grade. We didn&#8217;t even know about homeschooling before then.  It was some dear friends that encouraged us to homeschool and I am so thankful to them for showing us the way and to God for bringing them into our lives to show us that way.  </p>
<p>We currently have a 3rd grader, a 2nd grader, a Kindergartner, a Pre-K 3 yo, a Pre-K almost 2 year old, and a Pre-K 9 month old.   Learning doesn&#8217;t just start at a certain age and stop at another&#8230; it is a life long process.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I have bookmarked your blog to come back and read more as you post more on homeschooling.</p>
<p>God Bless You!</p>
<p>In HIS Hands,<br />Laura</p>
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		<title>By: Laura @ Laura Williams' Musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura @ Laura Williams' Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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