http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=840

“Dumbing us Down” is an excellent book–you’ll love it!

I must say, too, that your openness and willingness to think, read and search out an issue that is sensitive to you (since you participate in the classroom), instead of slamming the door in anger, is a remarkable sign of maturity and wisdom. Very impressed *smiles*

Between the comments you and Mama J made, I think I’m beginning to see what you are talking about. I’m currently reading a book by John Taylor Gatto entitled, “Dumbing Us Down,” which talks about this topic in a similar manner. I plan on reading a few more books regarding this topic (hopefully sometime next year, as I have a stack of books by my bed side that I still want to read, but haven’t started just yet, ha!).

In any case, you’ve given me much to think about. I will need to spend some time in prayer with God as well.

I think this is spot on… “No, home schooling is not an order by God. A loving God gives us fair warning that we cannot let our children forget Him or He will forget us. Hands off. That should be terrifying.”

It is not what someone else says about public school or homeschooling, but what the Word of God instructs us regarding following Him and teaching our children to do the same thing. It should be terrifying, indeed.

It has been the non-Christian parents questioning and grilling their children that have turned her in. She has taught for over 20 years and has only had such grief in the last 5.

If a sweet Chrisian lady that loves the Lord and tries to follow the rules slips up and happens to mention what she believes to be truth, how many more non-christian teachers do the same?

Are Christians vigilant about talking to their children and letting them know what is truth so that they can distinguish a lie when they hear it and report it?

Probably not. That is what the PS system is counting on.

You see no matter what you believe, your worldview will reveal itself and if you teach the same thing day after day you will begin to take liberties.

My SIL exudes Christ, she loves God deeply and it shows in everything she does. She is incredibly stiffled in her expression but feels she has a ministry. Frustrating as it may be.

By worldview I mean that everything taught in the home or PS has a requirment to fill. Nothing is neutral. Look at it with your eyes wide open…Reading? What are you reading?…Writing? Who are you writing to? By what standards?…Arithmatic? Why does 2
+2=4? Where does order come from?

God brings that order and everything points to Him. Teaching children God’s statutes all day long was an order to God’s people forever. From generation to generation. We are not to forget. The world will get your children soon enough and without strong legs to stand on they will fall.

Look at it this way…How many times a day do you have to remind a child of a chore? How many more times and more importantly are we to teach them about a God who loves them?

No, home schooling is not an order by God. A loving God gives us fair warning that we cannot let our children forget Him or He will forget us. Hands off. That should be terrifying. That should make anyone want to tell their children ” Listen I love you, you know I love you, but God loves you even more than I do. Let me show you(*opens Bible*) and remember to tell your children.” as many times a day as you possibly can.

Yes, humanism reigns in this world. Personal peace and prosperity reign in this world.

Christians are not to look like the world. We are to love but to stand up for truth and defend God in every breath. Our children are to measure everything with a Godly plumb line and loving parents entrusted by God to guide them all day long.

*Sorry so lengthy*

“Mr. Dunphy did Christian parents a great service by telling them exactly what humanists want to accomplish in the public schools. Humanists are forever paying lip service in asserting the separation of church and state when it comes to keeping Christianity out of the schools. But when it comes to humanism, they are strangely silent. As a result, humanism has become the establishment religion in our schools, and no one in the federal government or the Congress has seen fit to do anything about it.

Obviously, from a Christian point of view, the experiment of government education has been a colossal failure. In place of God, the public schools offer evolution, multiculturalism, transcendental meditation, situational ethics, drug education, death education, sex education, sensitivity training, gay studies, condoms, whole language, behaviorism, magic circles, and other humanist teachings.

These programs are creating the new nihilists, the amoral barbarians and the followers of Satan that are devastating the lives of thousands of families. There is hardly a Christian family that has not had to cope with a child lost to drugs, promiscuity, abortion, venereal disease, and pure unadulterated devil worship.”
Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld

Concise article:

http://www.leaderu.com/humanities/neutral.html

“I am afraid that the schools will prove the very gates of hell, unless they diligently labor in explaining the Holy Scriptures and engraving them in the heart of the youth.”
Martin Luther

I think off the top of my head about my high school (so many years ago even NOT being remotely aware of humanism. In my 8th grade Sociology class we learned situational ethics…you know, “the world is going to end, and only 5 can be saved. Should the 26 year-old doctor live, or the 40 year-old-stay-at-home-mom?” We were playing God, because obviously somone has to!

And even on a deeper, yet more subtle level…”You can do anything…” is a popular message that sounds like a really great human thing to say. But the Bible says, “I can do all things through Christ.”

It is so very subtle! Satan’s favorite tactic is still alive and well.

Did you read my comment to Lady Sophia? I know now this is where the difference in interpreting this whole matter lies.

Education can’t be true education apart from God, no matter how good the intent of the teacher. It is not neutral. We are holding the *system* of PS responsible, not the individual teachers.

I simply can’t teach about the world from a neutral worldview where there is no foundation for truth. Something has to be beginning of wisdom and knowledge. If it’s not God, it’s man…no matter how wonderful a teacher may be.

It may not be what a child is learning in any one class…but the sum total of a Godless education is an utter humanistic worldview.

Are we OK with this?

Our teacher calls her students blessings and while not overt I know she prays for them all as do I for her. I’m there all the time, I have high radar for things that effect my kids, and I just don’t see it.

Then again, I think some diversity (NOT sending kids out as missionaries to the lost–how inappropriate that would be) and the scientific method are good things to introduce along the way. I know not all of you are of the same mindset and the bottom line for me is that I just don’t think this issue should be a deal breaker (as it appears to be for some posters) among Christians of good faith and integrity.

“Okay, let me be honest. I guess I don’t understand how my teaching of reading comprehension, fluency, and language arts in a Learning Lab as an Instructional Assistant translates into teaching humanism to children.”

This makes sense to me, which is why I brought this up in the post briefly.

Let me explain my take…

It is hardly ever the individual teacher who purposely teaches humanism. It is the underlying worldview of humanism that MUST be taught in the absence of God. (Humanism is taught without any deliberate teaching….just like if I remove my oxygen source, I suffocate whether that was my intention or not.)

For example…2+2=4…but who said that? Where does the very foundation of all knowledge come from? If not from God, then from who?

When we try to educated children apart from the knowledge that God created all things and established truth and fact and is at the foundation of wisdom, we not only can’t educate properly, but (don’t mean to be a broken record) we teach that man is the source of truth and knowledge.

Now in your language class, I know you don’t tell the kids that the subject and verb must agree because God said so. And obviously, this doctrine of humanism is going to have deeper effects in some subjects than others. It really gets obvious in subjects like history and science.

But if you can separate the teacher and subjects from the system, I think you’ll be able to better grasp my assertions–it is the system that is devoid of God, and therefore devoid of truth, and by default teaches our children to worship man.

Did that help?