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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin and Melissa who?</description>
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		<title>By: Kim M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.familylife.com</description>
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		<title>By: Kim M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BY THE WAY;  I hope everyone is listening to family life today this week.  One of our favorite speakers (Voddie Baucham) was interviewed about his new book.  It covers this topic!  So far, it has been excellent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BY THE WAY;  I hope everyone is listening to family life today this week.  One of our favorite speakers (Voddie Baucham) was interviewed about his new book.  It covers this topic!  So far, it has been excellent!</p>
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		<title>By: Kim M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly, 
Thank you for revisiting this topic. I am so interested in this for my family, yet I have seen very few examples of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly,<br />
Thank you for revisiting this topic. I am so interested in this for my family, yet I have seen very few examples of it.</p>
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		<title>By: wordwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lady Sophia,

P.S.  We were just talking about pictures today!  I&#039;ve put Bria to the task of another photo shoot ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lady Sophia,</p>
<p>P.S.  We were just talking about pictures today!  I&#8217;ve put Bria to the task of another photo shoot <img src='http://www.generationcedar.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wordwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lady Sophia,

&quot;What if we are already married and didn’t have a totally “pure” marriage such as these young people did? Does this make our marriages less “pure” or insignificant because we pursued recreational dating (due to parents maybe not knowing another way)?&quot;

I mentioned briefly in the link, &quot;A Personal Note..&quot;, how I felt about this.  No, I don&#039;t think our marriages are less at all in God&#039;s eyes.  I think, however, that just like any other &quot;breaking of God&#039;s laws/natural laws&quot; that there are consequences that can remain, even after we&#039;ve been spiritually redeemed.  Much the same as someone who is unfaithful in marriage and then repents and get forgiveness.  Forgiveness doesn&#039;t necessarily wipe away the repercussions.  (That may be a bad example????)

Most all of us participated in recreational dating.  Some probably have worse &quot;baggage&quot; than others.  I&#039;ve shared about how I was involved in several serious relationships, gave my heart away multiple times, was intimately involved, had a child out of wedlock, etc.  I know without a doubt that my past has had negative effects on my marriage. It doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m not forgiven. I still think God honors my marriage, I&#039;m just aware that even issues within my heart probably stem from &quot;sinning against my own body&quot;--my own betrayal of what was sacred.

By the same token, I think everyone is affected differently, and everyone has unique circumstances from his/her past.  Some may &quot;feel&quot; like dating wasn&#039;t harmful at all.  I think more often than not, people don&#039;t even realize how it affected them.

Sorry to answer in a book ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lady Sophia,</p>
<p>&#8220;What if we are already married and didn’t have a totally “pure” marriage such as these young people did? Does this make our marriages less “pure” or insignificant because we pursued recreational dating (due to parents maybe not knowing another way)?&#8221;</p>
<p>I mentioned briefly in the link, &#8220;A Personal Note..&#8221;, how I felt about this.  No, I don&#8217;t think our marriages are less at all in God&#8217;s eyes.  I think, however, that just like any other &#8220;breaking of God&#8217;s laws/natural laws&#8221; that there are consequences that can remain, even after we&#8217;ve been spiritually redeemed.  Much the same as someone who is unfaithful in marriage and then repents and get forgiveness.  Forgiveness doesn&#8217;t necessarily wipe away the repercussions.  (That may be a bad example????)</p>
<p>Most all of us participated in recreational dating.  Some probably have worse &#8220;baggage&#8221; than others.  I&#8217;ve shared about how I was involved in several serious relationships, gave my heart away multiple times, was intimately involved, had a child out of wedlock, etc.  I know without a doubt that my past has had negative effects on my marriage. It doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m not forgiven. I still think God honors my marriage, I&#8217;m just aware that even issues within my heart probably stem from &#8220;sinning against my own body&#8221;&#8211;my own betrayal of what was sacred.</p>
<p>By the same token, I think everyone is affected differently, and everyone has unique circumstances from his/her past.  Some may &#8220;feel&#8221; like dating wasn&#8217;t harmful at all.  I think more often than not, people don&#8217;t even realize how it affected them.</p>
<p>Sorry to answer in a book <img src='http://www.generationcedar.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Lady Sofia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Lady Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly,

Even though I will probably never have children (I&#039;m 40), I was deeply moved by the courtship stories that you shared. I had not read them before (even though I come to your blog often), so it was a pleasant treat (smiles). 

I just had some questions though. What if we are already married and didn&#039;t have a totally &quot;pure&quot; marriage such as these young people did? Does this make our marriages less &quot;pure&quot; or insignificant because we pursued recreational dating (due to parents maybe not knowing another way)? How do you think God views marriages that were pursued via recreational dating even though the couple is currently pursing God&#039;s way of life? These are sincere questions, and I was just curious as to your thoughts. 

BTW, when you come across more courtship stories such as these two, PLEASE share them! I enjoy reading them (smiles). 


P.S. Also, when are you going to share with us new pictures of Ellia (I hope I spelled her name correctly.)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly,</p>
<p>Even though I will probably never have children (I&#8217;m 40), I was deeply moved by the courtship stories that you shared. I had not read them before (even though I come to your blog often), so it was a pleasant treat (smiles). </p>
<p>I just had some questions though. What if we are already married and didn&#8217;t have a totally &#8220;pure&#8221; marriage such as these young people did? Does this make our marriages less &#8220;pure&#8221; or insignificant because we pursued recreational dating (due to parents maybe not knowing another way)? How do you think God views marriages that were pursued via recreational dating even though the couple is currently pursing God&#8217;s way of life? These are sincere questions, and I was just curious as to your thoughts. </p>
<p>BTW, when you come across more courtship stories such as these two, PLEASE share them! I enjoy reading them (smiles). </p>
<p>P.S. Also, when are you going to share with us new pictures of Ellia (I hope I spelled her name correctly.)?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly,
Thank you for your answer. I know that many families pursue this concept differently and  the courtship ideal is one that our family embraces as welll. One other question I have (and this is based on your family as I know you cannot speak for others): Is there an age at which you and your husband would be &quot;less invovled&quot; with this process? For example, would you treat this differently with a 17 year old child as opposed to a 25 year old one? (I know that this is a jump ahead for you since none of yours are at this age yet, but from your speculation)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly,<br />
Thank you for your answer. I know that many families pursue this concept differently and  the courtship ideal is one that our family embraces as welll. One other question I have (and this is based on your family as I know you cannot speak for others): Is there an age at which you and your husband would be &#8220;less invovled&#8221; with this process? For example, would you treat this differently with a 17 year old child as opposed to a 25 year old one? (I know that this is a jump ahead for you since none of yours are at this age yet, but from your speculation)</p>
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		<title>By: wordwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy Jo,

Two thoughts come to mind...first, it&#039;s doubtful, having raised sons to seek wives who place a priority on purity, that he would even be interested in someone who was involved in recreational dating.  That&#039;s not supposed to imply &quot;snobbiness&quot; or say that our sons might not marry a girl who has dated, just that from where we are right now, it would see most logical that he would want to pursue a girl more like-minded...not there yet, so hard to say.

Secondly, if the situation were such, I&#039;m thinking the process (whatever that is for us) could still be followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy Jo,</p>
<p>Two thoughts come to mind&#8230;first, it&#8217;s doubtful, having raised sons to seek wives who place a priority on purity, that he would even be interested in someone who was involved in recreational dating.  That&#8217;s not supposed to imply &#8220;snobbiness&#8221; or say that our sons might not marry a girl who has dated, just that from where we are right now, it would see most logical that he would want to pursue a girl more like-minded&#8230;not there yet, so hard to say.</p>
<p>Secondly, if the situation were such, I&#8217;m thinking the process (whatever that is for us) could still be followed.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WW (Kelly),
I think that you have sons in your family (?) and my question is this: what if one of your sons desires to pursue a &quot;courtship&quot; with a young woman whose family does not require the same type of &quot;arrangement?&quot; I.e. her father does not require this type of protocol and is willing to allow his daughter to &quot;date.&quot; How would you handle that with your son?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WW (Kelly),<br />
I think that you have sons in your family (?) and my question is this: what if one of your sons desires to pursue a &#8220;courtship&#8221; with a young woman whose family does not require the same type of &#8220;arrangement?&#8221; I.e. her father does not require this type of protocol and is willing to allow his daughter to &#8220;date.&#8221; How would you handle that with your son?</p>
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