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		<title>By: Word Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Word Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cottage child...beautiful defense, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cottage child&#8230;beautiful defense, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Word Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2009/09/radical-gay-activist-appointed-to-the-department-of-education.html/comment-page-3#comment-14939</link>
		<dc:creator>Word Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nurse Bee,

&quot;I don’t understand the desire of some Christians to complete seperate themselves from the world. How does this fit in with biblical teaching?&quot;

There is a radical difference in &quot;separating yourself from the world&quot; (it would take a very aggressive, concerted effort to do that) and allowing our children to be educated by secular teaching and influenced the majority of the day by peers who do not embrace our Christian worldview.  My question is, how does the Bible teach that?  I&#039;ve posted before on the numerous biblical principles that spell out our need to avoid the &quot;counsel of the ungodly&quot;.  There is far more biblical evidence to keep our children out of govt. school than there is for it.  (Reminder:  Jesus didn&#039;t even let his grown disciples sit under any other teaching than His own.  He shepherded them all day, walking right beside them.  How much more our little ones?)

You mention that &quot;if parents are doing their job they will learn right from wrong at home&quot;.  Really?  Because statistically, that&#039;s not happening.  Children from Christian homes are either leaving the faith altogether at alarming rates, or their lives simply don&#039;t reflect a Christian worldview.

What your saying doesn&#039;t hold up to the reality of what is happening.  And in my opinion, it doesn&#039;t hold up biblically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nurse Bee,</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t understand the desire of some Christians to complete seperate themselves from the world. How does this fit in with biblical teaching?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a radical difference in &#8220;separating yourself from the world&#8221; (it would take a very aggressive, concerted effort to do that) and allowing our children to be educated by secular teaching and influenced the majority of the day by peers who do not embrace our Christian worldview.  My question is, how does the Bible teach that?  I&#8217;ve posted before on the numerous biblical principles that spell out our need to avoid the &#8220;counsel of the ungodly&#8221;.  There is far more biblical evidence to keep our children out of govt. school than there is for it.  (Reminder:  Jesus didn&#8217;t even let his grown disciples sit under any other teaching than His own.  He shepherded them all day, walking right beside them.  How much more our little ones?)</p>
<p>You mention that &#8220;if parents are doing their job they will learn right from wrong at home&#8221;.  Really?  Because statistically, that&#8217;s not happening.  Children from Christian homes are either leaving the faith altogether at alarming rates, or their lives simply don&#8217;t reflect a Christian worldview.</p>
<p>What your saying doesn&#8217;t hold up to the reality of what is happening.  And in my opinion, it doesn&#8217;t hold up biblically.</p>
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		<title>By: the cottage child</title>
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		<dc:creator>the cottage child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nurse Bee - for us, discerning what is appropriate exposure for our kids is our highest calling - I don&#039;t let them swim in the deep end without supervision.  That would be negligent of me, and unwise.  I see secular schools, public among them, as sending them into the deep end unsupervised. For now, they&#039;re little kids and it&#039;s not their job to shield themselves from adult subject matter - it&#039;s mine, no matter how inconvenient that truth may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nurse Bee &#8211; for us, discerning what is appropriate exposure for our kids is our highest calling &#8211; I don&#8217;t let them swim in the deep end without supervision.  That would be negligent of me, and unwise.  I see secular schools, public among them, as sending them into the deep end unsupervised. For now, they&#8217;re little kids and it&#8217;s not their job to shield themselves from adult subject matter &#8211; it&#8217;s mine, no matter how inconvenient that truth may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Nurse Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nurse Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do believe homosexuality is wrong, I don&#039;t know that pulling children from school is the answer.  If a parent is doing their job (and most parents these days are not), they will learn right and wrong from their parents, not the school.   While a Christian and a conservative, I don&#039;t understand the desire of some Christians to complete seperate themselves from the world.  How does this fit in with biblical teaching?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do believe homosexuality is wrong, I don&#8217;t know that pulling children from school is the answer.  If a parent is doing their job (and most parents these days are not), they will learn right and wrong from their parents, not the school.   While a Christian and a conservative, I don&#8217;t understand the desire of some Christians to complete seperate themselves from the world.  How does this fit in with biblical teaching?</p>
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		<title>By: the cottage child</title>
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		<dc:creator>the cottage child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily, WW doesn&#039;t need me to defend her, she&#039;s perfectly capable, but I find your supposed altruistic desire to &quot;reveal&quot; Kelly to &quot;herself&quot; very strange - 

First, WW and most of the rest of us have our own blogs/sites that discuss a variety of lifestyle issues, home and family, unapologetically Christian, many postures of worship and a variety of voices.  We are hardly in lock-step with each other, except for our love of Jesus Christ. 

WW/Kelly posts from her heart, based on Biblical teachings, and includes her family, her successes, her areas of concern, her struggles, her life - she is not hiding in the anonimity of blogland, hurling insults and making assumptions about total strangers.

As I see it, what you have revealed about yourself is all I need to know.  Who, exactly, is intolerant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily, WW doesn&#8217;t need me to defend her, she&#8217;s perfectly capable, but I find your supposed altruistic desire to &#8220;reveal&#8221; Kelly to &#8220;herself&#8221; very strange &#8211; </p>
<p>First, WW and most of the rest of us have our own blogs/sites that discuss a variety of lifestyle issues, home and family, unapologetically Christian, many postures of worship and a variety of voices.  We are hardly in lock-step with each other, except for our love of Jesus Christ. </p>
<p>WW/Kelly posts from her heart, based on Biblical teachings, and includes her family, her successes, her areas of concern, her struggles, her life &#8211; she is not hiding in the anonimity of blogland, hurling insults and making assumptions about total strangers.</p>
<p>As I see it, what you have revealed about yourself is all I need to know.  Who, exactly, is intolerant?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is where the slippery slope begins. 50 years ago, no one thought it possible that a gay agenda would be dictating our schools, politicians or laws. If you suggested it, the people would have laughed because it would have seemed so ridiculous. Right now, what is being sneaked in, under our noses that will be this rampant in 50 years?  As Christians we must stand, vocally, against these things. Congress is considering a bill that would guarantee American parents soverignty over their children. In contrast, some of your represenatives are in favor of adopting the UN conventions ruling on children (one law makes it so a parent cannot teach bigotry by teaching the Bible).  NAMBLA is making headway, the homosexual group trying to lower the age of consent to 7!  Where God directs each family, we have to fight!
Thanks, Kelly, for letting me take it in this vein; we wouldn&#039;t be having this discussion today if there was a stand for righteousness in the last generation instead of &quot;tolerance&quot; or apathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where the slippery slope begins. 50 years ago, no one thought it possible that a gay agenda would be dictating our schools, politicians or laws. If you suggested it, the people would have laughed because it would have seemed so ridiculous. Right now, what is being sneaked in, under our noses that will be this rampant in 50 years?  As Christians we must stand, vocally, against these things. Congress is considering a bill that would guarantee American parents soverignty over their children. In contrast, some of your represenatives are in favor of adopting the UN conventions ruling on children (one law makes it so a parent cannot teach bigotry by teaching the Bible).  NAMBLA is making headway, the homosexual group trying to lower the age of consent to 7!  Where God directs each family, we have to fight!<br />
Thanks, Kelly, for letting me take it in this vein; we wouldn&#8217;t be having this discussion today if there was a stand for righteousness in the last generation instead of &#8220;tolerance&#8221; or apathy.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily,
I really don&#039;t understand why you read this blog.  You obviously do not believe in what the Bible teaches and just want to argue what you believe. The Bible is very clear that homosexuality is a sin and is wrong. That is where Kelly is coming from and there is only one truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily,<br />
I really don&#8217;t understand why you read this blog.  You obviously do not believe in what the Bible teaches and just want to argue what you believe. The Bible is very clear that homosexuality is a sin and is wrong. That is where Kelly is coming from and there is only one truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Viles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie Viles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily,
&quot;are you planning to sacrifice your children? Embrace slavery? Because that’s in the Old Testament. Are you okay with following some of it but not ALL of it?&quot;

I wrote in my post that I knew we weren&#039;t UNDER the law, but just pointed out that there are natural consequences to breaking them.  I don&#039;t want to stone my children and I don&#039;t pray for God to destroy San Fransisco with fire.  

Someone asked what if your child was gay?  I have thought about this a lot.  I would not prayerfully kick him out of the house.  I have actually talked to him about it, after one of my gay friends asked me the same question.  My son said &quot;well I hope you don&#039;t act like it is OK.  I would hope my mother would tell me the truth and try to show me my sin.&quot;  this is a 16 year old boy.  So, I think that we should show that same love for everyone.  Are you REALLY loving your neighbor if you pretend they are living a holy life when it is really a lifestyle of ongoing sin?  I think that might be the root of this disagreement.  Jesus stopped the stoning of the adulteress. He absolutely stopped it.  But he told her to go and &quot;sin no more&quot;.  I think (just my opinion) that Jesus would be a friend to homosexuals in the effort to show love and compassion, but I cannot imagine that he would tell them it was OK to live sinfully AND try to convince the rest of the world that it was not sin.

I know I said I was out of this conversation. I think I mean this time---unless someone addresses me directly and then I jut can&#039;t resist :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily,<br />
&#8220;are you planning to sacrifice your children? Embrace slavery? Because that’s in the Old Testament. Are you okay with following some of it but not ALL of it?&#8221;</p>
<p>I wrote in my post that I knew we weren&#8217;t UNDER the law, but just pointed out that there are natural consequences to breaking them.  I don&#8217;t want to stone my children and I don&#8217;t pray for God to destroy San Fransisco with fire.  </p>
<p>Someone asked what if your child was gay?  I have thought about this a lot.  I would not prayerfully kick him out of the house.  I have actually talked to him about it, after one of my gay friends asked me the same question.  My son said &#8220;well I hope you don&#8217;t act like it is OK.  I would hope my mother would tell me the truth and try to show me my sin.&#8221;  this is a 16 year old boy.  So, I think that we should show that same love for everyone.  Are you REALLY loving your neighbor if you pretend they are living a holy life when it is really a lifestyle of ongoing sin?  I think that might be the root of this disagreement.  Jesus stopped the stoning of the adulteress. He absolutely stopped it.  But he told her to go and &#8220;sin no more&#8221;.  I think (just my opinion) that Jesus would be a friend to homosexuals in the effort to show love and compassion, but I cannot imagine that he would tell them it was OK to live sinfully AND try to convince the rest of the world that it was not sin.</p>
<p>I know I said I was out of this conversation. I think I mean this time&#8212;unless someone addresses me directly and then I jut can&#8217;t resist <img src='http://www.generationcedar.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to insult you. I&#039;m trying to reveal yourself to you. 

But the day you wake up will be too late, I fear. You&#039;ll see how you&#039;ve spent your life in unkindness. This is not grace. This is not mercy. I&#039;m simply sad and sorry for you. That&#039;s all. 

I have a strong feeling that God will welcome me to Heaven. :)  

Oh and you don&#039;t like people to disagree with you CLEARLY. At a certain point, you just hit em with the god&#039;s words!  And then you shut it down. 

So funny!  How little you understand yourself! I&#039;m laughing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to insult you. I&#8217;m trying to reveal yourself to you. </p>
<p>But the day you wake up will be too late, I fear. You&#8217;ll see how you&#8217;ve spent your life in unkindness. This is not grace. This is not mercy. I&#8217;m simply sad and sorry for you. That&#8217;s all. </p>
<p>I have a strong feeling that God will welcome me to Heaven. <img src='http://www.generationcedar.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Oh and you don&#8217;t like people to disagree with you CLEARLY. At a certain point, you just hit em with the god&#8217;s words!  And then you shut it down. </p>
<p>So funny!  How little you understand yourself! I&#8217;m laughing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Word Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Word Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily,

I&#039;m sorry, just one more thing...choose your insults carefully.  When you say &quot;you don&#039;t like disagreements, do you?&quot;  it sounds silly.  Because anyone who reads the blog knows that a whole lot of the comment section involves &quot;disagreements&quot;; it&#039;s just that most people are pretty respectful.  Not all, but most.  No, I don&#039;t mind disagreements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, just one more thing&#8230;choose your insults carefully.  When you say &#8220;you don&#8217;t like disagreements, do you?&#8221;  it sounds silly.  Because anyone who reads the blog knows that a whole lot of the comment section involves &#8220;disagreements&#8221;; it&#8217;s just that most people are pretty respectful.  Not all, but most.  No, I don&#8217;t mind disagreements.</p>
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