Preventing the Flu and What You Should Know About the Vaccine
Thanks to Heather for sending the great photo!
For your information–be informed before you make the decision to get the flu vaccine. Also, there are proven measures to reduce the likelihood and/or severity of the flu and related illnesses.
“No options outside of problematic vaccines and anti-flu drugs are offered, despite the fact there is strong evidence that vitamins C and D activate the immune system and the trace mineral selenium prevents the worst form of the disease…The only plausible explanation as to why the flu season typically peaks in winter months is a deficiency of sunlight-produced vitamin D.”
Elderberry has also proven very effective in the prevention of several types of flu.
A MUST READ about the vaccine: Fuzzy Math
This article raises some very interesting questions and points no one else is talking about.
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October 6, 2009 8:56 am
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What options have you found for nursing mothers? I know my baby is pretty protected since she’s nursing, but what about me? Have you found any sources stating the “proper” amounts of these supplements for nursing mothers?
Becky,
Not sure about amounts…I’d have to do some research on that.
We are big fans of Cod Liver Oil, but it has to be one of a few select brands. Otherwise they are filled with synthetic A and D and are no good! This article is a very good one for dosage and brand, including pregnant and nursing mothers I believe.
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/clarifications.html
This link is a youtube video from a Natropath Doctor that is very good. It is ten minutes long. she gives things you can take, things to eat and not eat, ect. Very informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp8AL0_1C4s
IMO, Vitamin D is crucial for cold and flu prevention. Also, vitamin C is good. I like the Vitamin C the above Dr. recommends for littles, it is a powder you mix with water and has the correct ratio of Vit. c and bioflavinoids.
Thank you for letting people know about this! The preservative used has been banned in Europe and is not even approved here. Seriously dangerous!
Thanks, Kelly.
Thanks for posting on this. I knew that there was controversy regarding the merits of the vaccine over the risks involved, but I was unclear on the details.
I’ve been preparing myself for dealing with the potential harassment that pregnant women are going to experience to get jabbed with H1N1 when it comes out. What I found to be most disturbing is that the inserts say that it pregnant women should not be vaccinated because it has never been tested (there wasn’t time) and they have no idea what the effect will be on both baby and mamma.
I’ve been meaning to put a post together about it, but I must confess that at 10 weeks, I’ve chosen sleep more than blogging lately
Thanks for the reminder- Maybe I’ll work on that today.
We also just posted the same excellent video clip on our natural health site. Please read this article also, about the serious side effects for children of the antivirals (such as Tamiflu): http://www.naturalhealthstrategies.com/tamiflu-side-effects.html
Also, getting enough sleep daily is very helpful in strengthening the immune system. Hard for moms with babies, but we can at least make sure the kids are getting to sleep early enough to get those prime before-midnight hours of sleep, plus enough hours total sleep. We do what we can, and pray, and then trust God to do what we can’t! It’s a winning combination!
This post and video is an answer to prayer! I have been mulling over the whole thing lately…Of course none of us want our kids to get sick, but pumping them with vaccines is certainly not the answer either! Thankfully, we live in an area where we are able to get lots of natural Vitamin D during our park time each day, but I’m going to implement the supplements you mentioned for even more protection! Thanks again!
P.S. The picture of you and Ellia is so precious! All of your kids are just beautiful
Oh, do you have any advice for quantities of supplements (Vitamin C and elderberry) during pregnancy? I’m just about 14 weeks and certainly do not want either vaccine! Thanks!
We will not be getting this either. I don’t really trust the vaxs that are already out much less one that was pumped out so quick. I work as a RN in the emergency room and I never get the regular flu vax. We will be doing more vit C and D this year, I need to research on the kind I need to get for my kids. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I am so scared for all those pregnant women and their babies who are basically being test subjects for this vax.
Thanks for posting this. I heard a rumor that they may be shutting the local public high school down for 2 weeks because there has been several cases of it.
Two of my boys have had fevers this week.
My sons have been sick (strep throat and ear infection) but not with flu — they were tested. This is scary, Kelly, because I’m reading all sorts of information just like this. I have never been anti-immunization, but this one has got me worried. My boys and I will not be getting the vaccine, but my husband has leukemia and the oncologist will be strongly recommending this for him. It sounds more dangerous than the flu itself.
Funny…I think my husband and younger son already had swine flu back in July. My husband’s sister was up visiting us from Mexico, and within a week or so (she stayed 2 weeks), my husband and younger son were ill. The illness lasted only about a day, no vomiting, only a little diahrrea, but they were both a little delirious, saying peculiar things. It was scary. It made my husband’s white blood cell count go up — not a good thing. Then they got over it. My husband’s oncologist thinks my sister-in-law may have been a carrier and that I probably should have taken my husband to the emergency room. Who knows? My sister-in-law said that in Mexico, everybody was ordered to stop work and stay indoors and they had to obey. Wow. We’re going to pray about this.
If it’s any consolation, several teenagers in our church have had the swine flu. Typical fly symptoms, down for a couple of days, then back to normal. For whatever reason, I think the media/gov (??) has hyped up the fear of people by not including important facts like, most of the people who die from swine flu (or any other kind) are elderly and/or have compromised immune systems. Not saying *every* one, but most.
I’m possibly more suspicious of government suggestions than most, but I do wonder about underlying agendas…scare everyone, mass vaccinate and “save the world”, then come out as hero in our eyes? Now they can do/say anything and we just follow it, because, after all, they do know best??? Just thoughts I’ve had…not necessarily convinced of that yet.
Influenza hits every year. Some people barely notice any symptoms while others become quite ill and even die
“Swine flu” just happens to be the strain that is being globally tracked and hyped.
It is terribly irresponsible to be pushing pregnant mothers especially to accept a relatively untested medication, IMO.
This is a timely post…as I’m about 9 weeks pregnant and have been wondering whether or not to get the vaccine.
I just don’t know what to do….according to the research I’ve done, out of the 100 pregnant women who’ve had swine flu since April that have been tracked, 28 of them have died. Needless to say, that scares me not a little. They aren’t sure why this is; the only explanations so far are that a pregnant woman’s immune system is already a little down and the uterus sits so high that many pregnant women’s breathing abilities are already comprimised later in pregnancy.
But then I read about the vaccine itself, and see that they are using thimerosal in them, which is a big no-no for pregnant women. Of course, you can get a thimerosal free vaccine, but then there’s the fact that the whole vaccine is so new.
Hmmm, what to do, what to do….
From long ago I have held to the idea that ‘I would rather have the flu than the flu shot’. So often people, even in the medical community, just shrug their collective shoulders and say ‘OK’ to any vaccine or medication that comes down the pipe.
Nurses are threatened that if we are not vaccinated and an outbreak occurs in our workplace, we are not allowed to work. Our own unions support this type of extortion – again with a ‘so what’ attitude [not that I am a true union person
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No, it is not tested enough to ensure safety. No, it is not necessary. No, I will not be accepting the ‘free’ shot this year or any other. No, no one in my immediate family will be taking it either.
Just as a side story…a former employee of mine was livid one year when she refused to fill the permission slip for the school to vaccinate her children – and they did it anyway! Calmly telling her it was in the childrens’ best interest. Another reason to home educate!
Actually, Kelly, you’re mistaken about some of your facts. Elderly people are actually NOT being killed by the swine flu as they typically would be by seasonal flu. That’s what is unusual and attention-getting about the H1N1 strain — it varies from the textbook expectations of children and the elderly being most vulnerable, as happens with seasonal flu. H1N1 seems to be unique in killing otherwise healthy adults, which you don’t generally see with seasonal strains.
To “pregnant lady”, I have read that those facts are a bit wrong. It is actually out of 700 pregnant women with swine flu, 100 were hospitalized, and out of those 100 hospitalized, 28 died. So, 28 died out of 700, which isn’t quite so daunting.
Ashley
Susan,
Do you mind providing the stats to validate that claim?
Here is by far, the most insightful article I’ve read that may just get to the heart of the scare tactic behind the swine flu…and it asks questions and provides some statistics that are blaringly obvious, yet no one is talking about.
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/fuzzy-math-why-swine-flu-vaccines-dont-add-up/blog-145741/
“The point, of course, is to sell vaccines. It’s the one math problem that everybody understands: To make money, you have to sell a product, and there’s no better way to sell vaccines to 160 million people than to scare them into begging for injections that are statistically opposed their own self interests.”
28 is a lot in my book. It is not so daunting unless you are one of the 28. I’m still praying about what to do.
Thank you for this post. We are very anti-vaccines in my home. It is nice to see others questioning the powers that be regarding the swine flu vaccine.
For Pregnant Lady…
I had the flu — and most likely swine flu according to my OB — when I was 10 weeks (I am now 38 weeks). It was tough on my body: high fever (take Tylenol) and just achy, but as long as stayed hydrated I was fine and stayed home. It took me about 2 weeks to completely get over it, but I did and so far as we can tell the baby is fine, too.
This is MY experience. And I certainly would not every give anyone medical advice, but I can tell you this:
1) The vaccine has not be “proven” safe for pregnant women or babies in the womb (or anyone for that matter, but they do at least admit this).
2) ALL flu vaccines containe mercury. ALL of them. Mercury will cross the blood barrier to your baby. That is serious.
3) Protect your health and boost your immunity. Take your prenatals. Get plenty of rest and stay hydrated. Stay out of public areas that aren’t necesarry. Anything to protect your immunity so that you limit exposure.
And PRAY, PRAY, PRAY! I know for our family, God’s wisdom for us on this was so obvious and clear… but we truly cried out to Him about it.
The media and MD’s really use guilt to manipulate this. Don’t make a decision on guilt. Make a decision based on medical facts and God’s leading.
Praying for all who are still struggling with this decision. I truly understand. I was pressured in my OB office last week at my visit. I smiled and said (thankfully), “I’m immune…I’ve already had it.” The nurse looked at me and said, “And you’re okay?” Even the medical staff have been brainwashed to believe that NO ONE (especially pregnant women) survive this. Be aware though, your immunity is suppressed during your pregnancy, thus the need for extra percautions.
The mass vaccination campaign started last week in Australia and as I am 30 weeks pregnant and pregnant women are among the first to be offered the vaccine, I was sure I would be targeted at my hospital antenatal appointment. It just so happened that the midwife attending me was also refusing the vaccine and her reasons were virtually identical to mine. It is too new, the testing has been limited and this first roll out is surely still a testing phase. A doctor appeared on our tv news last week and informed viewers that in her opinion, this roll out was the final stage of testing. This was the only information presented by the media to balance the government stance which is being heavily pushed – lots of tv ads at prime time and full page newspaper ads, they have purchased enough vaccine to vaccinate every member of the population. It is not even flu season but they believe a summer wave will arrive thanks to tourists arriving down under from the Northern hemisphere winter.
Over last winter we put into operation a ‘family flu prevention action plan’ I have written a post about this but basically it involved good nutrition and tonnes of homemade chicken soup loaded with garlic! We had chicken soup 3 nights a week. We also did the usual hygiene measures and hand washing and because I am pregnant I avoided lengthy trips to the mall – beware of the supplements aisle, I came across sick people here who were seeking cures rather taking preventative measures! I also did not attend church for a few weeks in mid-winter as I was aware of sick people still coming along…someone coughing right through the sermon does not put one at ease! Especially when they come over later to shake your hand or give you a hug!
My oldest son did catch a flu, he had been away to Thailand on a missions trip and possibly picked it up at the airport, we do not know whether he had the swine flu or normal seasonal flu because they were only testing those who had serious underlying conditions- I did take him to the hospital to be checked out because the last time he had a bad flu (8 years ago) he developed pneumonia and spent a week in hospital. Although he was very tired, experienced shivers and a headache and developed a cough he did recover after a week and bounced back quickly. I was the only one in the family who developed any flu-like symptoms, I was very tired and had the shivers for a few days but I recovered quickly too. No other member of my family became ill so I guess our preventative measures worked – we upped our chicken soup consumption too when our son became ill! Never has my crock pot seen such use!
The vaccine has not yet been deemed safe for under 10s, they are still conducting trials here but at the end of this month they start mass vaccination of children! The problems with ‘Rotashield’ the anti-diarrhea vaccine given to babies in the late 90s, were not discovered until it had been rolled out and 100 babies developed severe bowel obstructions within the first year – then it was withdrawn. Will we see the same scenario with the swine flu vaccine? Will authorities be telling us that any serious side effects were unforeseen? I for one will not allow myself, my children or my unborn child to be a guinea pig – I am not totally against vaccinations but I am wary of new vaccines, the sheer number of vaccines which have been added to the register and certain ingredients – I was not aware that thimerosol was one of the ingredients so thank you for that info.
Two other natural foods which have been part of our flu prevention regime are apple cider vinegar (an ingredient in our chicken soup and added to salad dressings) and coconut water from young coconuts – I add this to fresh pineapple juice for an extra health boost.
I think it is possible for otherwise healthy people to die from this flu because the healthy adults I know do not REST when they get sick, which leads to pneumonia and yet they still keep going.
I don’t know which statistics to believe, I just know that when our bodies are ill we need plenty of hydration and rest. So many I know don’t get either on a good day.
That’s a really good point, Belinda. Why do most of us Americans feel guilty when we give ourselves a much-needed rest?
‘Course, my one son is going in the military, and he won’t have a choice there. Husband and other son have already had the swine flu, we think, I think, and as husband does not have to see the oncologist for another couple of months, I think we’ll skip the shot. I’m not getting one, but then again, I almost never get a flu shot. Husband has already had one flu shot at the recommendation of the oncologist, plus a pneumonia shot, but I don’t think it was a swine flu shot.
I just blogged about something that has worked super well for our family.
http://www.butfirstwehavecoffee.com/2009/10/oscillococcinum-passing-along-what-i-know/
No flu shots for us! I was never anti-vaccine until my last baby. He was getting his scheduled vaccines, just a little late. I put off his 6 month shots because of summer and vacations. On the trip to Disney before we got home and got vaccines, he was starting to talk. Just simple calling mama dada, and saying words that were meant to be his brothers names, but we knew what he was saying. Well, when we got home, the very next couple of days we went in and had the check up and got the shots. He was about 8 months old. Well, he ran a high fever and was very irritable and didn’t talk again for about 8 more months and then didn’t really start talking until he was almost 3.
I knew I shouldn’t be vaccinating him. When he got shots when he was 2 weeks old he quit sleeping, when he got shots at 2 months old, he quit rolling over and I just ignored my “mother’s intuition”. I asked the pediatrician every time we went in and he assured me there was no evidence. That what I was reading was anecdotal not scientific evidence. Well, anyway, we stopped after the 6 month shots that he got when he was 8 months. Because my kids go to school I have started again, (he is 3 1/2) but this time one shot at a time, monitoring changes very closely. I would not give my children one more shot than absolutely necessary. I do feel like, since they are going to school and have a higher exposure rate (?) that I want them vaccinated against DEADLY childhood illnesses. This does not include chicken pox! One interesting note, you can no longer take the MMR separately, according to my pediatrician. They quit making it that way he said.
The H1N1 vaccine is the same vaccination as the seasonal flu, they just change out the particular strain. So it’s not exactly a new vaccine.
The doctor in the clip and FOX news are just playing into people’s fears. Everyone should talk to their OWN doctor about their concerns!!
Nurse Bee – as I watched the report, I heard the anchor state that three other doctors who had been on the exact same Fox program had endorsed,recommended and encouraged the use of the vaccine. He was the one dissenting voice out of four. And he’s got the same credentials they do, no reason to dismiss him out of hand.
I think there is a lot of “playing into people’s fears” – but it’s not Fox news doing it.
As to the age-related effects of H1N1, what I remember hearing (sorry, I didn’t look up the study/report, so for app this is anectodal) was that there were two swine flu pandemics in the 20th century – one claimed more than the plague, the other was in the 70′s, similar to what we’re experiencing now. There are enough “older” folks who were exposed to the swine flu that immunity in that group remains fairly high. Small children typically don’t experience critical flu symptoms, but do spread the virus around. It’s the middle group – the teens, twenty and thirty somethings, who have been left out of this round of exposure related immunity, and that’s why the critical illness and death rate are so high among those who are usually the healthiest and strongest.
My neighbors had swine flu a few weeks ago. They were sick with normal flu like symptoms for a few days….and then they were fine. I think it’s a wee bit hasty to be so fearful of H1N1. In most cases it won’t develop into anything that we aren’t already dealing with every winter. I am pregnant and will be refusing the vaccine at my next OB appointment. If you are in an over all state of health you will be fine….even if you get it. Also, my Dr. said that 30% of people who test positive for H1N1 have no symptoms and do not get sick at all….they are only carriers for the virus.
This is really interesting. I do remember the swine flu going around back in the 70′s.
I got some elderberry lozenges at my local healthfood store with the H1N1 scare and have been taking them every time I get a scratchy throat… seems like every time they work and BOOM no more scratchy throat. I’m *very* pleased with this. The kids don’t thank you for reminding me about their CLO tonight though.
Leslie,
If you read the inserts of the vaccines, they specifically state that if your child has ever had ANY adverse reactions to the shots to not take them again. Further use could “build up” so to speak, really continue the damage. You may want to pray hard if you should vaccinate again. And school districts normally cannot make you vaccinate. Here in Nevada there is an opt out for religious reasons. Your religious reason could be you prayed, and trust God…
I know most people don’t read the inserts, and Drs won’t tell you this, thought you should know.
Cottage child,
It’s actually a different strain of swine flu that in the 70s. There is no evidence to suggest that people who were exposed to that strain have any immunity to the current strain.
As for the doctor on FOX, I still advocate talking to your own doctor about any concerns. I am not one blindly trust what I hear on the news or read on the internet.
Also from the CDC site (which I consider a reliable source of information…more so than FOX news (although they have their merits)):
“Since 2001, no new vaccine licensed by FDA for use in children has contained thimerosal as a preservative, and all vaccines routinely recommended by CDC for children under six years of age have been thimerosal-free, or contain only trace amounts, except for multi-dose formulations of influenza vaccine. This was done as a precautionary step and not because there was evidence confirming that thimerosal-containing vaccines were causing health problems. The most recent and rigorous scientific research does not support the hypothesis that thimerosal-containing vaccines are harmful. “
Nurse Bee – I agree, check with your own doctor. I wouldn’t suggest anyone should “blindly trust” what they hear on the news or read on the internet. I was merely pointing out that Fox news wasn’t summarily dissing the flu vaccine. It was one man’s opinion, which is what you’re getting from any one doctor.
I do think it’s worth considering, though, that there is something of an engineered panic ensuing with the current H1N1 outbreak. While I respect the CDC, and my doctor, and am not a blanket non-vaccinator, a healthy dose of common sense and some perspective might be good.
I also think that medication/vaccination is the default position for the medical field, and the campaign to vaccinate is in some cases money-driven (Guardasil, for example).
The flu vaccine, regardless of strain, is always at least a year behind the strain that’s active, is it not? It’s not likely any flu vaccine is a “perfect match”, yet still offers a certain level of protection that some feel balances the risk of the injection. I don’t know if perhaps swine flu strains operate differently, but I can still see how there would be a measured level of peripheral immunity from the current strain by having been exposed to another. As to the strain in the seventies, lack of exposure to it is one reason being offered for the sudden and swift demise of the age group that is usually most resilient, (I am STILL trying to find that article – I think I may have read it in my Drs office, ironically). I’m relaying information that I found interesting, not suggesting more than careful consideration of all the facts.
I’m not trying to play a doctor on Gen. Cedar (although that would be great name for a soap,Kelly). I don’t think it’s unwise to be skeptical when anyone says “EVERYONE SHOULD DO THIS OR WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE”. Sometimes, that’s true (wearing seat belts, not driving drunk, etc), but not always.
Cottage Child, I don’t think anyone has said – do this or we all will die! There is sufficient evidence that this is the seasonal flu, and most will not perish if infected. But the fact remains (and like Nurse Bee I work in the field) that to be suspicious of any implementation of medical care because the government is involved is, in my opinion, somewhat wrong-headed. Whether you choose a flu vaccine or not, please know that there are thousands of people trying to access the risk of an H1N1 shot to pregnant women or children. Those in healthcare want to help promote patient safety. We are not sticking people willy-nilly.
Please, I beg you, do NOT get your medical information from Fox News. Visit http://www.cdc.gov.
There are children that had reactions to the polio vaccine. It’s true, they did. But without it, there would still be polio. Ponder that for a moment!
NurseBee, you say that the CDC says that NO flu vaccine contains mercury, but this is from glaxosmithkline’s own website, and can be found here: http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf
“Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is added as a preservative. Each 0.5 mL dose contains 25 mcg mercury. (3)”
So, see, if the CDC says that it doesn’t contain mercury, the CDC lies.
Someone may have already posted this, but the FDA website states that all dead virus flu vaccines DO contain Thimerosal. http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228
Thimerosal was eliminated from vaccines ROUTINELY given just to children.
Kelly L,
My pediatrician is dead set that if the kids are going to be in school I should vaccinate. I am actually not against all vaccines. I just think we have gone a little crazy with them. I think when I was a kid we got 3 or 4 and now they are trying to vaccinate against so many different things. Well, we are doing it now and I think I feel OK about it. We are just going VERY slow and giving his little body time to recover from one thing before we inject it with another!
Ida,
I think most of us are smart enough to research any claim made–including those on Fox-the video adds information for us to consider, it is not the “one stop shop” for healthcare.
By the same token, there are plenty reasons to be suspicious of government-related practices. The site you provided was “.gov”…and should be equally regarded as information to be confirmed, not readily believed.
Kelly,
I am bit confused from a statement from one of the nurses commenting. Are there 2 shots this year for the flu or one biggie? Isn’t swine flu a totally different shot than the typical flu shot?
Also, having had children with severe asthma, I know the implications of taking the (regular) flu shot and not doing it. We have taken it b/c a minor cold can land mu children in the ER. To some, the flu is very dangerous and not something disregard. If my children did not have a continual disease such as asthma, I would rethink it too. I understand that a lot of the ladies on here have healthy children and what a blessing the LORD has given you!
Just a side note, we have decided not to take the swine flu vaccine. It seems too risky with the current stats out there whether you are pregnant or not.
Thank you as always, Kelly, for making me think!
Leslie,
I would encourage you to read the insert provided with the vaccine itself. If the manufacturer specifically says not to take it if ANY adverse rxn occurs, then maybe your pediatrician is incorrect. I am probably on a CDC list because I requested the inserts, but it was worth it. I have never heard of any Ped telling a parent not to give a shot because of a rxn. That includes my friend whose daughter had severe (hospitalization required) seizures. Most doctors do not have time to do their own research or read the inserts themselves. All of us are given charge, by God, over our own kids. Totally not judging, just commenting *SMILES*
Your tone is not very sisterly, Kelly. I was not suggesting that everyone run off and get a flu shot. I was pointing out that Fox News is not the best source for medical care. I think it’s fair to point that out.
The Center for Disease Control is a government agency. But they are not out to kill or maim our children. It is far worse for them! But perhaps you’d prefer the WHO:
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/notes/pandemic_influenza_vaccines_20090924/en/index.html
I would not advise anyone on whether or not to get vaccinated. I was only advising people to get complete information.
Ida,
You mis-read my tone. Though I won’t complain about being called “wrong-headed”.
Ida,
I am curious if any of the medical community take the “suspicious” claims into consideration at all. I’m curious to know what you think about the points of the article I posted above:
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/fuzzy-math-why-swine-flu-vaccines-dont-add-up/blog-145741/
I don’t think everything the government does is worthy of eye-brow-raising, but it is increasingly more of a concern, one I feel that is warranted and deserves serious attention.
Ida,
I haven’t done a lot of research on WHO, but given some of the accusations they have faced regarding vaccines, I don’t know how credible they are. However, the fact still remains that it is up to each family to make the decision. All points of view should be considered and all the FACT should be weighed. Obviously people trying to avoid Thermosal or any type of mercury would avoid the flu vaccine, swine or seasonal. I also think much of the mistrust comes from the huge deal that was made of it and the rumors about mandatory vaccinations.
Not to sound to conspiracy theory, but even if there were evidence that these vaccines contributed to autism, it would be a nightmare for the government, as they made these vaccines almost mandatory for children to attend school. When you make something mandatory and then it is not safe, you stand to lose. I would not put it past the government to cover up something like this.
Here is a link about WHO and their track record with vaccines. I know it old, but I think it is still relevant.
http://www.thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
apparently I am having a hard time hitting my S button.
Kelly,
Did you see this comic skit about the vaccination that’s posted on the Family Reformation site???
http://familyreformation.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/are-you-considering-getting-a-flu-shot/
Don’t get me wrong, I take all of this very seriously, it all hits very close to home: one of my close relatives died from an adverse reaction to the “swine flu” vaccine administered in the 1970′s.
I just wanted to let others know that a Dr. has confirmed with me that IF you receive the H1N1 (MIST) vaccine you have received a live virus. Quote “the “live viruses” can be “shed” and cause other people to become infected.” The Dr. has put on the office door: If you have received the H1N1 (MIST) Vaccine please do not enter and come back in 3 weeks.
On this one, alas, I must disagree with you.
Mercury/theremisol–several of the H1N1 vaxes are theremisol-free. Dr. Sears’ site has a list of which do and which don’t have it. This is another debate, but the chemistry of theremisol is different from the chemistry of the mercury found in thermometers, just as the chemistry of sodium is different from the chemistry in salt.
Vaccine itself–it’s being given out. What are the current *death* rates for the vaccine? We have death rates for swine flu that are not looking good. The vaccine currently produced is not the same one, or using the same technology, as the one in the 70′s.
Immunity–Having a strong immune system seems to be a liability with this particular flu. While you might be less likely to get it, what often causes death is not the vomiting or fever, but a hyper-immune response that is more likely to happen when a person does have a healthy immune system. Thus, proportionately and surprisingly higher deaths among the young and the healthy (and pregnant women).
I don’t think anyone should be forced to take any vaccinations. I would like to put it out there, though, that those of us who do get vaccinated are not stupid, or blind followers, or “uninformed”. We’ve made the consideration and come to different conclusions about the risks vs. the benefits of vaccinations.
Margaret,
“those of us who do get vaccinated are not stupid, or blind followers, or “uninformed”. We’ve made the consideration and come to different conclusions about the risks vs. the benefits of vaccinations.”
I agree completely.
Thank you.
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