There’s only one thing that confuses me and I hope someone can answer this: the book says that scientists account for the colors of the flamingo and the blue-footed booby’s feet as being from their diet on the Islands. But neither bird originated from those islands, so this doesn’t make sense. Any thoughts?

Whoops, I meant false. Oh well. Done now

Re: VF:

The original comments referred to your misinformation about Doug:

“I don’t approve of the VF’s attempt to deny the clear evidence of evolvement within a given species or try to declare this as evil.”

The statement is a complete falsehood (and I realize you’ve acknowledged that–thank you). That is the topic at hand and there’s no need to bring up other things with which you disagree about VF. Disagreeing with something they say is one thing–certainly your prerogative. Disagreeing with something completely opposite the truth is what I want to stop in its tracks.

Hope I’m being clear.

The Driscoll comment needs to be answered on that thread

Keeping things clear…I read Driscoll’s quote. He refers directly to Paul’s writings for his conclusion on women’s position of leadership in the church. His stance is: “all ministries are open to qualified women with the singular exception that women cannot be ordained as pastors/elders.”

As for the Bible quote he uses to reach his conclusion (as well as most conservative Christian pastors):

“But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.

For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.

And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.”

you said:

“The Bible does not say that women are more easily deceived because one woman grabbed the fruit.”

How do you reconcile your conclusion with Paul’s above one?

Not intending to use your post as an example, but it comes at a ripe time since I’ve just finished up reading about a whole host of slanderous things about VF that I *know* to be untrue. (Of course the untruths are usually couched in “mostly true” so that the deception seems strikingly real and believable.)

(Again, Doug Phillips, in Mysterious Islands spent a great deal of time “glorying” in the way God organized micro-evolution and how it is evidenced in the animals they witnessed on the island.)

This comment was just an example of the way deception is spread. One person (probably looking for something wrong?) passes on a completely inaccurate piece of information and that continues to be spread around (and in the blogosphere at lighting speed) and just like the game of gossip, it usually changes at least a little each time it is repeated.

Before you know it, people are believing complete lies and slander about upright, God-honoring people.

It is absolutely heart-wrenching to me. Particularly because my spiritual gift involves a strong sense of justice and honesty.

It just shouldn’t be in the body of Christ. Exposing falsehood and deception, yes. But making up stuff about men whose message (though it line up with Scripture) we don’t like, no way.