Mark Driscoll: Tolerance is Not Loving

I’ve posted this video before, but even if you’ve seen it, it’s worth watching again.  Hear the message….(and might I add it’s one of the most entertaining bits you’ll ever see from a pastor ;-)

18 Comments

  • By Sara, December 3, 2009 @ 4:37 pm

    I totally agree and am SOOO glad you posted this! I needed to laugh about serious things today. I can’t help but watch Driscoll and think of Martin Luther!!

  • By Kim M, December 3, 2009 @ 5:43 pm

    LOL! Someone needs to put his picture beside Joel Osteen’s :-D

  • By Dana, December 3, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

    It makes my throat hurt to listen to him. :-) Seriously. I need to drink tea now.

  • By Lori, December 3, 2009 @ 7:24 pm

    Kim – Hahahaha! “The Grin & the Glower!” :P

  • By Kathy @ teachinggoodthings.com, December 3, 2009 @ 11:41 pm

    This is GREAT! I live with someone like this…I’m always telling her to calm down…maybe I shouldn’t? ;o)

  • By Heather, December 4, 2009 @ 12:16 am

    He definitely has personality.

    And I agree that the generally agreed upon definition of “tolerance” is not at all loving.

  • By kimberly, December 4, 2009 @ 10:17 am

    That was so funny…He is a straight shooter

  • By Mandi, December 4, 2009 @ 2:39 pm

    ha ha… “I love you, that’s why I yell at you.” Good stuff.

    Thanks for posting this, Kelly…and also for all of the other particularly thought provoking and serious posts recently. Wonderful blessings to me.

  • By Jennifer, December 8, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

    Kathy, don’t tell her to calm down ;) I’d recommend sending her to Driscoll, so he’ll get a wake-up call about the truth and strength of women.

  • By Word Warrior, December 8, 2009 @ 8:36 pm

    Jennifer,

    Mark Driscoll (another assumption here) no where, in no way, denies the “strength of women”. Saying such things here, without reference, causes slander; someone reading is prone to take what you’ve said at face value and form an opinion of Driscoll that is completely inaccurate. I don’t think that’s very fair.

    As I mentioned in my other comment, I’m particularly sensitive to this issue of making unfounded (and usually slanderous) statements about others. It is rampant on the web and it is causing destruction to a lot of people. Don’t mean to be hyper, I’ve just seen it too much and it grieves me ;-)

  • By Jennifer, December 8, 2009 @ 8:49 pm

    I’ve been told by a trusted source that he considers women to be easily deceived and you heard him call feminine stuff namby-pamby. And heck, I didn’t even touch on this in my initial post.

  • By Jennifer, December 8, 2009 @ 8:51 pm

    I don’t think you’re hyper at all, though. If you’d like, I won’t repeat any of this again unless my said source gives me a citation :)

  • By Word Warrior, December 8, 2009 @ 9:18 pm

    Jennifer,

    Your “source” would definitely need to give citation. Because I’ve heard numerous sermons by Driscoll, and some sessions he has done alongside his wife, and nothing has been said of the sort.

    Often feminist “claws” come out when biblical marriage is discussed. Now if you have issue with the Bible (it speaks of women being easily deceived) say it. Don’t attack the speaker merely repeating it.

    I most certainly except you to cite him directly if you want to accuse him.

  • By Word Warrior, December 8, 2009 @ 9:23 pm

    Jennifer,

    “And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.”

    Driscoll quoted the Bible. God said it, not Mark.

  • By Jennifer, December 8, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

    “I most certainly except you to cite him directly if you want to accuse him”

    My first post was an opinion, not an accusation. In any case, you know as well as I that he’s said other disrespectful things. The Bible does not say that women are more easily deceived because one woman grabbed the fruit. My claws only come out when I hear disrespectful comments backed by misapplied Scripture.

  • By Word Warrior, December 8, 2009 @ 10:08 pm

    Jennifer,

    “the quote of Driscoll’s I was referring to concerning women being deceived was a totally different one, having nothing to do with pastorship.”

    If so, can you provide the quote you’re referencing?

  • By Jennifer, December 8, 2009 @ 10:21 pm

    If I can find it, I will, perhaps privately in an email to you. Thanks. I’ll keep what you said in mind; I don’t like some of Driscoll’s methods regardless, but believe me, I’d love to be disproven about what I feared his opinion of women as a whole is. I’m sorry for the distraction, I didn’t mean to turn this to a debate about his character or, especially, appear to be disrespecting your own opinion of him. If anything, I agree with this message: tolerance of sin is no solution.

  • By Jennifer, December 8, 2009 @ 10:24 pm

    Btw, if my last post duplicates itself, sorry.

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