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		<title>Comment on Mother-Forgiveness by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch. Thank you for being so real. And thanks be to the Lord - His mercy lasts forever.</description>
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		<title>Comment on America After 50 Years of the Pill by Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me Lady, don&#039;t feel the need to explain why you drifted here and never landed. May I have that strength sometimes. Still, not sure I regret it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me Lady, don&#8217;t feel the need to explain why you drifted here and never landed. May I have that strength sometimes. Still, not sure I regret it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on America After 50 Years of the Pill by Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, since you asked nicely I won&#039;t snub you: Lady, I never discounted wisdom, or feelings for that matter, from other people; not deliberately anyway. I&#039;ve said from the beginning that everyone&#039;s entitled to their feelings BUT that these feelings shouldn&#039;t dictate another&#039;s actions. Women with babies are happy; good for them. Does this make them more knowledgeable about this matter scientifically? No, so I won&#039;t respond as though it does. 

Why am I still here? A few reasons: some have been polite and I like to talk to them. I want my position to be clear. And, I&#039;m an anxious person; it&#039;s hard for me to let things go. Plus, when someone bites me, I show my teeth in turn; I&#039;m not one to turn my back on that. I hope I can now, because the INPOLITE comments come so unexpectedly and they&#039;re wearing me down. Thanks for asking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, since you asked nicely I won&#8217;t snub you: Lady, I never discounted wisdom, or feelings for that matter, from other people; not deliberately anyway. I&#8217;ve said from the beginning that everyone&#8217;s entitled to their feelings BUT that these feelings shouldn&#8217;t dictate another&#8217;s actions. Women with babies are happy; good for them. Does this make them more knowledgeable about this matter scientifically? No, so I won&#8217;t respond as though it does. </p>
<p>Why am I still here? A few reasons: some have been polite and I like to talk to them. I want my position to be clear. And, I&#8217;m an anxious person; it&#8217;s hard for me to let things go. Plus, when someone bites me, I show my teeth in turn; I&#8217;m not one to turn my back on that. I hope I can now, because the INPOLITE comments come so unexpectedly and they&#8217;re wearing me down. Thanks for asking</p>
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		<title>Comment on America After 50 Years of the Pill by Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you&#039;re not going to respond to any comments, I guess there&#039;s no reason for me to answer you.</description>
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		<title>Comment on America After 50 Years of the Pill by pregnant lady</title>
		<link>http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2010/03/america-after-50-years-of-the-pill.html/comment-page-6#comment-19780</link>
		<dc:creator>pregnant lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have followed the comments on this post with interest. 

The biggest question I have, and have had in the past on other controversial topics that have been posted on this blog, is why people who disagree continue to patronize this blog and engage in heated discussions with people that they clearly disagree with?

Jennifer, please understand that I don&#039;t mean this as an attack, but it seems clear from your comments that you do not hold the same beliefs as Kelly and most of the women who frequent the comment section of this blog. And while I admire someone who listens to points of view that are different from their own, I have a hard time understanding why you would continue to come here if you are indeed as offended as you state you are?

Your last comment stated that you have been belittled, spiritually threatened, offended, insulted, etc., and yet you continue to post, repeatedly, on this blog. Why? If it&#039;s self defense you&#039;re after, I think you achieved that early on in your comments. If you&#039;re not here to change anyone else&#039;s mind, then why ARE you here? Not suggesting you leave, just truly wondering what your motivation is? 

I truly don&#039;t mean this is an offensive way. I am just intensely curious. If I disagreed with 95% of the commentors on a given blog, and felt repeatedly put down, offended, and threatened by said commentors, then I would probably stop frequenting the blog. 

Also, I think you stated (I could be wrong, there are so many comments on this post that I could be confusing you with someone else) that you are not married, nor do you have any children. If that is true, you cannot summarily dismiss the wisdom (yes, there is wisdom that comes when one experiences these things from a scriptural understanding and practice) that has been gained by those who have. Does this mean that a younger, single woman can&#039;t know ANYTHING about marriage or parenthood? Of course not. But it seems logical that knowing about something is quite different from experiencing something. And while it is not always the case, experience usually brings fresh knowledge and wisdom concerning a topic. You seem to have implied in a previous comment that some women have changed their minds just because they got emotionally happy after having their children, and therefore lost any ability to base their convictions on fact rather than emotion. While this could be true in some cases, it does not logically follow that it is true in ALL cases. While we should not be led by our emotions, emotions do not automatically obscure further knowledge or appreciation of factual information.

Anyway, this comment is getting much longer than I intended. Although I hope my curiosity as to your persistence on this blog is satisfied, I will not be responding to any comments that may be directed my way. I have no desire to be part of the fray that has resulted here the past few days. I confess I have found it interesting, but I know my own tendencies towards defensiveness and how quickly I personally can succumb to dialogue that is not in the least bit edifying. That is not meant to sound all high and mighty; just being honest about my own personal temptations. I like being right and having the last word too much to engage in heated discussions on topics like this, which is why I have never posted before on such a controversial post. This time I guess my curiosity got the best of me.

As to the original topic, Kelly, I am thankful that you post things like this; if not for people who were willing to speak out against the birth control norm, I might never have been challenged to rethink my own beliefs about the subject. My husband and I, in the grace of God, became convicted over our use of hormonal contraceptives 3 years ago. :) We will welcome our third child in May (hopefully! our second one was overdue, so I&#039;m hoping this one will show up &quot;on time!&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have followed the comments on this post with interest. </p>
<p>The biggest question I have, and have had in the past on other controversial topics that have been posted on this blog, is why people who disagree continue to patronize this blog and engage in heated discussions with people that they clearly disagree with?</p>
<p>Jennifer, please understand that I don&#8217;t mean this as an attack, but it seems clear from your comments that you do not hold the same beliefs as Kelly and most of the women who frequent the comment section of this blog. And while I admire someone who listens to points of view that are different from their own, I have a hard time understanding why you would continue to come here if you are indeed as offended as you state you are?</p>
<p>Your last comment stated that you have been belittled, spiritually threatened, offended, insulted, etc., and yet you continue to post, repeatedly, on this blog. Why? If it&#8217;s self defense you&#8217;re after, I think you achieved that early on in your comments. If you&#8217;re not here to change anyone else&#8217;s mind, then why ARE you here? Not suggesting you leave, just truly wondering what your motivation is? </p>
<p>I truly don&#8217;t mean this is an offensive way. I am just intensely curious. If I disagreed with 95% of the commentors on a given blog, and felt repeatedly put down, offended, and threatened by said commentors, then I would probably stop frequenting the blog. </p>
<p>Also, I think you stated (I could be wrong, there are so many comments on this post that I could be confusing you with someone else) that you are not married, nor do you have any children. If that is true, you cannot summarily dismiss the wisdom (yes, there is wisdom that comes when one experiences these things from a scriptural understanding and practice) that has been gained by those who have. Does this mean that a younger, single woman can&#8217;t know ANYTHING about marriage or parenthood? Of course not. But it seems logical that knowing about something is quite different from experiencing something. And while it is not always the case, experience usually brings fresh knowledge and wisdom concerning a topic. You seem to have implied in a previous comment that some women have changed their minds just because they got emotionally happy after having their children, and therefore lost any ability to base their convictions on fact rather than emotion. While this could be true in some cases, it does not logically follow that it is true in ALL cases. While we should not be led by our emotions, emotions do not automatically obscure further knowledge or appreciation of factual information.</p>
<p>Anyway, this comment is getting much longer than I intended. Although I hope my curiosity as to your persistence on this blog is satisfied, I will not be responding to any comments that may be directed my way. I have no desire to be part of the fray that has resulted here the past few days. I confess I have found it interesting, but I know my own tendencies towards defensiveness and how quickly I personally can succumb to dialogue that is not in the least bit edifying. That is not meant to sound all high and mighty; just being honest about my own personal temptations. I like being right and having the last word too much to engage in heated discussions on topics like this, which is why I have never posted before on such a controversial post. This time I guess my curiosity got the best of me.</p>
<p>As to the original topic, Kelly, I am thankful that you post things like this; if not for people who were willing to speak out against the birth control norm, I might never have been challenged to rethink my own beliefs about the subject. My husband and I, in the grace of God, became convicted over our use of hormonal contraceptives 3 years ago. <img src='http://www.generationcedar.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  We will welcome our third child in May (hopefully! our second one was overdue, so I&#8217;m hoping this one will show up &#8220;on time!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mother-Forgiveness by jen in AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>jen in AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you so much for sharing this!  A convicting reminder that I am to always show my husband and  children the kind of love and forgiveness my Heavenly Father shows me!  need to go repent...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you so much for sharing this!  A convicting reminder that I am to always show my husband and  children the kind of love and forgiveness my Heavenly Father shows me!  need to go repent&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>Comment on America After 50 Years of the Pill by Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientifically, a zygote is no comparison to a human or even a tiny fetus with organs. However, I know this will become a human if left alone (maybe) and I&#039;m aware that God often sees things differently, and of the gravity and meaning this has. So, there is no easy answer; it&#039;s a mystery I don&#039;t take lightly. All I know is that I will never, ever condemn a traumatized woman who terminates an early pregnancy; this is between her and God, and only HE can tell her what to do. On this subject I have no more to say, and this will just have to be enough for all of you.

Grace, old girl, you need to listen very closely right now. I don&#039;t care about changing anyone&#039;s mind; I never did. I don&#039;t give a flying darn whether the most stubborn of you ladies go to your graves thinking I&#039;m doomed to hell. Most of the women here are awesome, but I&#039;ve nevertheless had my faith and humanity put down, criticized, patronized, doubted, misquoted, and downright insulted. And you have the nerve to accuse ME of being snotty and belittling? I&#039;ve been a one-woman defense team for the past week, almost non-stop, and you&#039;re getting snooty about the fact that I&#039;m finally starting to lose patience, once and for all, after having received the same arguments from YOU and others over and over and over?? You have no place talking whatsoever on either the matter of sounding snotty OR accusing me of being obsessed with changing people&#039;s minds. Um, hello? People are still addressing ME, still bringing the topic up with ME, trying to change MY mind. And you carry one of the most know-it-all tones I&#039;ve seen in a long time.

I don&#039;t WANT you to agree with me, any of you. What I want is for you to stop OBSESSING over changing MY MIND. I want you to leave me the devil alone. Do you understand that? Because the more you push me, the more defensive I&#039;ll get and the more all your words, from science to sad story, will sound like blah blah blah to me. It&#039;s been a WEEK of this, remember?

Grace, Ycw and Anon, go home. Go to your families, thank God for them, and pray thanks that you&#039;re right and I&#039;m wrong for daring to say your kids were ever zygotes. Do what you want, just leave me out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientifically, a zygote is no comparison to a human or even a tiny fetus with organs. However, I know this will become a human if left alone (maybe) and I&#8217;m aware that God often sees things differently, and of the gravity and meaning this has. So, there is no easy answer; it&#8217;s a mystery I don&#8217;t take lightly. All I know is that I will never, ever condemn a traumatized woman who terminates an early pregnancy; this is between her and God, and only HE can tell her what to do. On this subject I have no more to say, and this will just have to be enough for all of you.</p>
<p>Grace, old girl, you need to listen very closely right now. I don&#8217;t care about changing anyone&#8217;s mind; I never did. I don&#8217;t give a flying darn whether the most stubborn of you ladies go to your graves thinking I&#8217;m doomed to hell. Most of the women here are awesome, but I&#8217;ve nevertheless had my faith and humanity put down, criticized, patronized, doubted, misquoted, and downright insulted. And you have the nerve to accuse ME of being snotty and belittling? I&#8217;ve been a one-woman defense team for the past week, almost non-stop, and you&#8217;re getting snooty about the fact that I&#8217;m finally starting to lose patience, once and for all, after having received the same arguments from YOU and others over and over and over?? You have no place talking whatsoever on either the matter of sounding snotty OR accusing me of being obsessed with changing people&#8217;s minds. Um, hello? People are still addressing ME, still bringing the topic up with ME, trying to change MY mind. And you carry one of the most know-it-all tones I&#8217;ve seen in a long time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t WANT you to agree with me, any of you. What I want is for you to stop OBSESSING over changing MY MIND. I want you to leave me the devil alone. Do you understand that? Because the more you push me, the more defensive I&#8217;ll get and the more all your words, from science to sad story, will sound like blah blah blah to me. It&#8217;s been a WEEK of this, remember?</p>
<p>Grace, Ycw and Anon, go home. Go to your families, thank God for them, and pray thanks that you&#8217;re right and I&#8217;m wrong for daring to say your kids were ever zygotes. Do what you want, just leave me out of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on America After 50 Years of the Pill by Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s okay, Kelly. I apologize that it was too much. Just as well, really, I&#039;ve had time to reconstruct my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s okay, Kelly. I apologize that it was too much. Just as well, really, I&#8217;ve had time to reconstruct my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on America After 50 Years of the Pill by Word Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Word Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, Jennifer, I couldn&#039;t publish that comment.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Relaxed Homeschooling:  Our Vocabulary Curriculum by Coram Deo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coram Deo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that same tree this week...really added to the clarity of my thoughts:-)

Eerie indeed. Actaully, that would make one of those great sci-fi type edge-of-your-seat movies that are so popular today.....hmmmm....maybe we should do a movie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that same tree this week&#8230;really added to the clarity of my thoughts:-)</p>
<p>Eerie indeed. Actaully, that would make one of those great sci-fi type edge-of-your-seat movies that are so popular today&#8230;..hmmmm&#8230;.maybe we should do a movie?</p>
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